The ultimate music thread
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OK, let’s talk music. What are your favorite bands/performers? But not MTV crap. Something alternative, undergroundish, something that elevates your soul, no mater that your friends/family never heard of them. Some band/performer that if you even mentioned to your co-workers they would label you as a elitist-alternative-underground-betterthanthou-sonofabitch. Maybe something from the past that you don’t hear on the radio every fucking five minutes. Some music you’ve discovered by accident and fell in love with it. My #1 passion in life is music, so I could probably talk about it for years. Being quite familiar with most of the genres I will start with only few. Sieges Even – a German progressive rock/metal band. The album: The Art Of Navigating By The Stars. Singer’s angelic voice, the anger wrapped in sweetest melodies, lyrics that create the ocean right in front of your eyes – give me almost transcendental experience, being able to suppress the whole universe and just give me audio-multiple-orgasms, immersed in the sea of what music should be. Thursday – American post-hardcore/screamo band. Underrated. Emo/screamo is just a piss-pool of quasi-modern recycled music. Nearly every band in this genre sucks to hell – singing about vein-slashing and tons of tissues used on their lonely tears. Crap, crap, crap. But these guys kick ass sky-high. The album: War All The Time. Every song is a masterpiece. Lyrically incredibly surprising. Poetic. Anger, desolation, wisdom, unpretentiousness, humanity, fantastic avoidance of being pathetic, an album created by the people for the people. No matter the race, nationality, religion. It is unbreakably bonded with the best period of my life – a time I felt that everything is like it should be, like I can do everything. Etched in my heart. Poets Of The Fall – Finnish rock band. Album: Signs of Life. Every song screams love and life. For me, the best vocals ever recorded excluding USA/UK. Unbelievably lovable guitar melodies. The constant atmosphere of waking up to a perfect morning, knowing everything will be all right. The ultimate anti-depressive. While being melancholic. Incredible. Also, some of the finest lyrics ever written in a non-english-speaking country. These are the 3 albums I would merge with and have children with. |
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OTEP – “Sevas Tra” (Their first album. Also their best) I originally saw this band at Ozzfest and fell in love with the singer. She’s a beautiful woman, who sings about a tortured life. Her vocal range is nothing short of amazing and her lyrics move me every time I listen to them. They’re an alternative metal type band, which can’t really be pigeon-holed. Cannibal Corpse – Probably not the first, but by far the best. They’ve been at it for over 20 years and are still doing it right. Songs that provide a soundtrack to a horror movie. They’re good when you want something different and don’t feel like the “I hate god” bands. Guns N Roses – “GnR Lies” Probably their most UNDERRATED album ever. They were a band fused together with talent and a ‘fuck you’ attitude. They were torn apart by drugs and in-fighting. Their rise and eventual destruction was an inspiration for one of my tattoos. They destroyed themselves with drugs and fighting. E-Town Concrete – “The Renaissance” Rapcore. Great, great, great band. Got together in 1995 and their lyrics meant something. It was Limp Bizkit with a meaning. I have listened to this album from first to last track so many times that I’ve actually worn out the CD and had to buy a new one. GWAR – There is no ONE album. These guys put psychosis on the map. The BEST live show I have ever been to in my entire life. If you have a chance to see them, by all means, do so. The live set is worth it. Dropkick Murphys – “Live On St. Patrick’s Day” I saved the best for last. These guys are a punk/celtic band and have written more emotional songs than Celine Dion has fans. These guys are the blue-collar workers and ALWAYS involve the crowd in their concerts. They were JUST discovered by MTV recently, though I had heard about them in the late 90’s. Their live show is captured as best as it can be with Live On St. Patrick’s Day. If you’ve never heard of these guys, spend $15 and pick up the LOSPD album. I guarantee you won’t regret it. So, to recap. The bands that have moved me over the years : GnR, Otep, E-Town & DKM. They have changed my perspective of music. Being a part of the spawning MTV generation, I was fed what they considered ‘cool’. I.E. Reel Big Fish, Blink 182, etc. Then, I decided to take a chance. A lot of people are comfortable with what they listen to, unsure of branching out. That’s the nice thing about some of the websites out there. They give you a chance to preview music you haven’t heard before. (NOT A SHAMELESS PLUG) Check out playlist.com. Completely free pop-up player with your choice of music. Now. It’s time to listen to : Beer! – By : Psychostick. [EDITED] I forgot one more. Cradle Of Filth – Cruelty And The Beast. One of the most brutal bands I have ever heard. Their albums tell stories and when they tried to go with just a bunch of songs put together without a theme holding them together, it sounds like a guttural version of The Go-Gos. Cruelty And The Beast is an album revolving around the legend of Elizabeth Bathory. The band themselves has been hit-or-miss with their follow-up albums. This one, to me at least, stands out above the rest. It takes me on an emotional roller coaster every time I listen to it and I have bought this album no less than 4 times, just because I keep wearing it out. Not the originators of dark/black metal, but probably one of the best. |
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Jebozid… This looks like the most self-indulgent thread I have ever seen here. I love it. Kudos for the idea. I too have a voracious appetite for music. I am turned on at the sound of Sieges Even, despite the intense dislike I have for ‘metal’ in all its forms. A thousand apologies tnd… I am a weakling and a fool. The Dropkick Murphys sound like a riot, however, much like Oirish revivalists The Pogues judging by your description. I will rush to the All Music Guide at once. To this thread, and to keep the proceedings literary, I must add the marvellous echolalia of the Cocteau Twins, most notably their 1984 album Treasure, which is a mixture of medieval alt-folk music wrapped in a quilt of post-punk guitars and sublime, mysterious vocals. It pricks the soul in ways one never expected it to be pricked. The allure of melancholic folk music is irresistible to me, hence my love of such bastions of brilliance as Vashti Bunyan, the heart-rending Lisa Germano, and I consider Bryter Layter by Nick Drake one of the most stirring paeans to loneliness ever penned. This stuff rings out the soul, purifies it and leaves the listener gasping on a new plateau of human understanding. In terms of experimental rock music, the use of stories and ideas, and more importantly the meaning words have in our lives as writers… no rock band can hold up a candle to The Fall. I would cite their album Dragnet as a brilliant wave of ideas, sheathed in a condom of cynicism and a punnet of ringing electric guitars and thrashing garage dissonance. ‘Tis enough. I have more. We all do. Long live this thread. |
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Where the hell do I start? So many, so many. Not saying that the two do not or cannot overlap – just where the emphasis lay. With my own preference, give me Beefheart, Young, John Martyn, and yes – mostly older artists. Who would I listen to over and over again, given the fact I have 2000 odd vinyl and 4000 CDs? Ahhhh I’ll have to stop, too many, too many. And I haven’t even begun with Jazz and blues and classical and…. |
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You have 6000 recordings? Yipes! I once sat on a hillside behind The Garden State Arts Center in New Jersey and smoked hash with Janis Joplin. It was the start of the evening and she was radiant. Her kid sister quality gushed out and filled you with light. Then I watched as she downed another fifth of Jack Daniels during the show and fell apart. It was very sad. I also played drums with Bruce Springsteen when I was twelve and he was sixteen. We come from the same home town. Zappa, Pink Floyd, Segovia, Mozart, Return to Forever, even Neal’s self indulgent crap. Most embarrassing? Days of Future Past, but that was probably the LSD and the times. If I had my dream, my prose would move readers to tears the way music can, and often does. “The sound I have heard in your hello….” |
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Oh, Jeb – great thread. |
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Bon Iver’s “For Emma, Forever Ago.” Soulful, spare, haunting. Anything by Sufjan Stevens. Often intricate, layered, sad, beautiful. Anything by Will Oldham aka Bonnie ‘Prince’ Billy aka Palace Brothers. Original, literate, funny, resonant. Anything by Liz Phair because she’s awesome and I’m in love with her. allmusic.com rocks but it’s nice to check out pitchforkmedia.com from time to time too. check out muxtape.com too. make a mix and post your link. the best way to appreciate new music is to hear it. |
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::waves middle finger at certain people:: |
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Listening to Neil Young’s “Harvest Moon” when I was sixteen years old and sticking my then girlfriend for the first time, I realized just how much I wanted to be a father and so I failed to pull-out and make my now famous “belly art.” A decade later, while dancing with my daughter to Britney Spears’s “Hit me, baby, one more time,” I fell to my knees and wept, not only because the song is powerful and poppy and just so damn sexy, but because it reminded me of the years of abuse I suffered at the hands of my own father, and at that moment, I finally forgave him. I hugged my daughter and we danced some more. |
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Acid Bath – Peagan Terrorism Tactics (also LOVE When the Kite String Pops) QOSA (Queens of the Stone Age) – Lullibies to Paralyze Gwen Stefani – Love, Angel, Music, Baby Slayer – South of Heaven Sepultura – Chaos A.D. (and Roots) Soulfly – Soulfly Deftones – Around the Fur (and Adrenaline) Midnight Sydicate – Realm of Shadows Fiona Apple – Tidal Alice in Chains – Facelift (and Dirt) System of a Down – Self titled (I think some refer to it a S^2 or something) Pantera Cradle of Filth – Lovecraft and Witch Hearts (and Cruelty and the Beast) Clutch – Self Titled (and Blast Tyrant) Fear Factory – Obsolete Marilyn Manson – (Anything before and including Anti-Christ Superstar) I mean, this list could go on and on…I am trying to leave out my beloved Bowie, Stevie Nicks, Duran Duran, The Cure, Bach, Tchaikcovsky (yes, I enjoy classical music, girlie music, 80’s music…I am passionate about music…period…and many, many more, but even so, I still have to add to this list later. This is enough to chew on for a bit ;) Honorable mentions to: More to come!! |
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Wow, Karma. You be some badass chick! Check out “Every Time I Die” sometime. mebbe you dig. |
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-Another one I thought of : Eminem – The Eminem Show. He’s a great character and pulls it off amazingly well. Some say it’s an act, others say it’s true. Who the hell cares. He’s funny and can put some badass songs together. Karma : SLAYER is BETTER?! Damn your blasphemous heart. As I so eloquently pointed out, CC is best for those times when you DON’T want to listen to the ‘I-hate-god bands’. Slayer has pointed out that they fall under that category with such classics as : Hell Awaits, South Of Heaven, God Hates Us All, Raining/Reign In Blood, Christ Illusion…well, all of their albums. I mean, how many times can you talk about hating god? Seriously? South of Heaven was by far their best album. However, Raining Blood was their best song. With Angel Of Death as a close second. South Of Heaven just had a maturity to it that wasn’t anywhere else. The subsequent follow ups were crap. Undisputed Attitude? Please. They pulled a GnR with that. Christ Illusion was the first album since SoH to actually touch on what they used to be. Jeb : I am Neil Young and Britney Spears’ love-child. It’s an incestuous relationship that the three of us have. Do you really want more details? I can write a tell-all book and sell it to TMZ. Harold : While looking at DKM, make sure to check out the Street Dogs. They have the same mentality and actually have DKM’s old lead singer. As far as sounding like The Pogues, you’re absolutely correct. A friend of mine made me a CD with all sorts of British punk bands on it in retaliation for the bastardized American version of a CD I made for him. But, yes. They sound like The Pogues and he actually mentioned that there was one song where he thought it WAS The Pogues. Jeb (again) : The song that I listened to, as I fell face first into a sheet cake (that I am STILL pulling out of my ear hair) from the wedding – Scars Of The Crucifix (Deicide). It’s a lovely little diddy that was probably written while cats were being sacrificed and small children were told the story of John Wayne Gacy. At a different time, the ol’ stereo was pumping out “I’ve Got You Babe” (The Beavis & Butthead – with Cher) version. With you providing you’re own squiggly lines, you’ll see me sitting there and completely baked out of my mind. I reach for a roach, light it, take a deep drag…except it’s not marijuana. It’s an actual roach. Remember kids, don’t do drugs. |
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Sweet Jebus! Are all writers metalheads? And comedians? They you should listen to a Finnish folk metal band Korpiklaani, preferably their first album Spirit of the Forest. It’s an unholy mix of Slayer and Jethro Tull. And your feet cannot be still for a second while listening to them. And you get the urge to drink something alcoholic. And strong. Me, I was raised on grunge. Yes, from Nirvana to Stone Temple Pilots. (Oh, yeah, be careful not to say anything bad about Nirvana or I’m gonna have to bitchslap you) I didn’t listen to anything else for years. And then I started listening to everything. I would like to mention Godsmacks IV, their last album. They were always lukewarm to me, never really had a huge song that would shake my balls, though I’ve always liked their sound and great vocals. Then I’ve heard IV. I had to change my diapers. Twice. So much agression wrapped in riffoid melodies and just the atmosphere which makes your head fly across the room. I hadn’t been so impressed with a hard rock album since Body Count’s first album. Which reminds me, I LOVE funny music. Body Count, Bloodhound Gang, Richard Cheese, even the Southpark shit. tnd: Harold_P: BTW I’m sooo glad y’all worshiping Neil and Britney like I do. :P Karma: tnd again: |
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Recently I’ve taken to listening to obscure artists to alienate my friends and family. Y’all should try it sometime, it’s a hideously enjoyable activity. I once gave a copy of Lou Reed’s “Metal Machine Music” to my brother. He still won’t return my phone calls. As for the music listed on here, I am surprised at the amount of heavy metal and grunge being pumped into the airwaves. S’all good. There’s no way I’m ever going to listen to any of it, but to each his own. Last week, I purchase a copy of Gary Young’s (formerly of Pavement fame) appalling album “Hospital” to give to my sister. I need to stop this mad behaviour. |
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Plantmannnnn… agreed. horrible album. bought it when i was in high school. god knows why. stephen malkmus is doing much better. |
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Now, before you think the llama has lost his mind, let me explain myself. As far as GNR Lies, it was more of the attitude of the album, rather than the content. For example, from the first half, Mama Kin and Reckless Life are the standout tracks. Mama Kin was one HELL of a cover and Reckless Life just fit their personalities at the time. For me, the second half was nothing short of amazing. Yeah, they were drugged up. Yeah, they were probably having sex WHILE making the album. But, those four songs are classic. Patience, a beautiful ballad that gave a hint of what was to come. Used To Love Her, who hasn’t thought about doing something like that at some point? Obviously you won’t, but the thought has popped in EVERYONE’S head from time to time. Maybe with an ex, maybe with a current, but I can guarantee it happened. Acoustic You’re Crazy, again another hint of what was to come. I like both versions and I think that this version hit the chord they were going for with the second half. One In A Million, this is the ‘fuck you’ attitude that I brought up before. This is the musical embodiment of that attitude and they got a LOT of shit for it. As far as CoF…They are most definitely an acquired taste. No doubt about it. Their lyrics (esp. the first three albums) were nothing short of amazing. After “From The Cradle To Enslave,” they kind of went off-track, but found it (sort of) with Lovecraft & Witchhearts (even though that’s more of a greatest hits album). Supposedly, Godspeed On The Devil’s Thunder is supposed to be more like their old stuff. They’re starting out well, with the album’s theme revolving around Gilles De Rais. Not to mention that the mix of instruments and the actual MUSICAL part of their beginnings was impressive. Midian and everything after, I wasn’t as impressed, but the first three showed a lot of promise. But, that’s what happens to a lot of bands. People find them and expect them to play the same damn thing for 20-30 years after that. See : Slayer, Deicide, Cannibal Corpse, Metallica, Rolling Stones, etc. If they try something different, the fans lash out at them, unwilling to part with what they’ve grown to love. Music is something different for everyone. For me, metal is a release of my inner anger. I listen to it constantly, including while I’m writing. But, unlike these kids who blow their faces off, I don’t let it affect me. Example : Glen Benton burned an upside down crucifix in his forehead with a candle and a hanger. Does that mean I’M going to do it? No. But, parents want the government to control what their kids listen to. Censorship occurs and the original message is lost. ::grumbles:: Sorry for the rant. Game on. (goes to smoke a roach or fly…maybe a caterpillar.) |
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TnD GnR, my favorite was, of course, Appetite (for Destruction). Mr. Brownstone, My Michelle, You’re so Crazy…yummy. But, I do tend to only like one or two albums from any specific artist. This is why I feel that Pantera is my all time favorite. I like three of their albums; every song, every lyric, every beat. That says something spectacular about them as artists. Plus, I probably have a soft spot for them because they pulled me right out of that ‘Glam Rock’ phase I was going through and launched me into thinking that guys who weren’t prettier than me were way hotter. Kinda bald with a tattoed head? Yeah, this all happened at a Skid Row concert. Skid Row Jeb I also love Nirvana and STP (Scott Weiland’s vocal chords are do – able). STP is coming here in a couple of weeks. Together. Awww…. Godsmack, huh? Gotta say, not a big fan. I can’t tell the difference between most of the new “hard rock” bands. They all blend together in my brain. They were once an Alice in Chains cover band, hence their name. I may have to check out this IV. Alice in Chains Jar of Flies???? Gasps…That it could be placed above Facelift or Dirt? And I am blasphemous just because of Slayers anti-God antics? If there is blasphemy in music this is it. Go watch Coneheads! ::Cries just a little bit:: Chaos A.D. still gets regular listening pleasure in my CD player. In fact, every band that I have mentioned are in my ‘quick I need a good CD’ selection on my CD holders on my visors. Marvin Claire_D |
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OK Jeb, if I hear you right: Pink Floyd – Dark Side of the Moon. Heard for the first time while tripping my brains out laying in a canoe in the middle of a rainwater lake on top of a mountain. Clear blue sky, 70 degree day in autumn at the height of New York State leaves turning. Some guy on the lake took two Marshall Towers, put them out on the dock and patched in the tape. PINK FLOYD COMING DOWN FROM HEAVEN, MAN! Why is that woman crying? Beatles – Hey Jude. US debut on WNEW FM by Pete Fornatell at 4:15 on August 15th, 1968. I was fifteen. I had just walked into my bedroom after the love of my life whispered (I think) “I love you.” I was so filled with light I started dancing on top of the dressor and my mother walked in just as they started singing Nah, Nah, Nah, Nana Na Nah and I jumped from the dressor to my bed doing a full 360. She took one look and closed the door again. Hendix – Wind Cries Mary live at the Gas Light a Go Go, Greenwich Village, April 1967. I was six feet away from him. Just watched his hands all night. I know this is probably dated for some of you, but sometimes when I need a little ego boost I take comfort in knowing I was there when it began. Drugs and music were different back then. We thought we were going to God. |
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Yeah, yeah, yeah – Jimi Hendrix |
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I love Dark Side of the Moon, definitely a fav. I am a huge Beatles nut. Particularly their late 60’s early 70’s era (when they were on drugs, haha). Jimmi Hendrix…and especially that you mention that song in particular. My dad passed in February, and I was designated to pick the music (because I am a music freak and it is all rooted in what I listened to at a young age with my dad). Wind Cries Mary was played at his funeral. As was Freebird and Mama I’m comin Home. So, in honor of my dad… I will add to the list: Black Sabbath. I was listening to them before I can remember. |
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We could make another thread like What 2-3 songs will be playing at your funeral and why. But I would expect nothing shorter than an essay on that subject. Karma: sorry but playing Nutshell on my acoustic guitar and singing it is for me so fucking transcendental, it’s like I’m doing opium with God’s grandma. And Rotten Apple is maybe the most powerful slow song ever written. It’s like injecting 5 gallons of coffee in your heart. Try playing Carmageddon on it. And here are the tissues, stop crying, rabbits are genetically blasphemous. |
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Korn’s debut album was totally unexpected. I saw them open for Megadeth in ‘95 and immediately ran out and got their CD. The first time I heard Daddy, not only was my jaw hanging to the floor in shock, I felt a little dirty and ashamed for listening to something so completely fucked up. It was one of the best albums ever! If it makes me squirm, it’s gotta be powerful ;P Also doing another shout out to some more alt. girlies. |
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Incidentally… I was looking for that remixed version of Suzanne Vega’s song “Tom’s Diner” (the album version is a cappella). I loathe it when great songs only appear on Best Of compilation albums. As an album collector, I am against all Best Of compilations and Greatest Hits malarky. You can stuff them in a sack, Mister. Grrr…. PS Karma: Good call with the Sneaker Pimps. A very underrated group. |
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OK, some moments in my music history: Pink Floyd and Soft Machine at the roundhouse in Chalk Farm, London October 1966. Acid soaked sugar available inside only, not at the doors as rumoured. My thinking what/who the hell are these guys. Paul McCartney wandering past Yoko Ono before she met John Lennon. Listening to Casey Jones by Grateful Dead while on Acid – first time I ever listened “below” the music. Watching Pink Floyd, The Who, Yes, David Bowie, Jethro Tull, and The Jimi Hendrix Experience at the Marquee Club in London during the sixties – and seeing Eric Clapton cry the first time he heard Hendrix play. Rolling Stones in Hyde Park – and a skinhead deliberately giving me crabs by patting my head as he passed. (Yes, you can get them without having sex). Eclection,The Deviants ,Family,Roy Harper, Fairport Convention, ,Fleetwood Mac,Stefan Grossman,Peter Sarstedt, Ten Years After. – Hyde Park 1968. Music can sound good without being on drugs. Every friday in Newcastle University during the early seventies – a different soon to be super group. Too many to list, but up close and personal. Back to the roundhouse, 1976 and Rick Mayal busking outside – reciting his “Cliff Richard Poem”. (OK, not really music – but there was inside). Going to The London College of Printing with Neil Murray, and through him meeting Davie Bowie. We all three sat on the pavement drunk as skunks outside the “Pickle Factory” (An annexe of the LCP). Playing in a Mock Punk Band and sharing guitar effects boxes with Elliot Easton of Cars while they made a stopover in London. Playing on stage with Rocky Sharp and the Razors (Den Hegarty split a month or two later and formed “The Darts” More, lot’s more – but that will do for now. |
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Oh boy, crab stories! I got crabs from sitting on somebody’s couch. Then gave them to my fiancée later that night (Try talking your way out of that one). Then the 14 year old girl down the street got them from my bed. Seems she and her little boyfriend were sneaking into my house during the day while I was at work. (Honest, your honor). I finally got rid of the little buggers by bathing in pure kerosene while listening to The White Album, just to stay on topic:) |
